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  • Jezzerup
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    looking forward to march madness this year. coming round fast again.

    I dont see how Gonzaga can keep this up against tougher opposition.

    https://www.sportsbetting3.com/ncaab...adness-betting

    Baylor should be ok but watch out for Houston.

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  • echo77
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    Some critics just look for excuses

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  • WeberJazz
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    Weird commentary in 2020 to say 6'6" 230 lbs is lacking in ideal height for a wing. There are dudes regularly playing the 4 at not much bigger than that given the way the game has trended.

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  • leetrakul
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    And Hughes is Hollinger's draft sleeper. Hope that also pans out.

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  • leetrakul
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    I watched Udoka on Youtube yesterday. He is HUGE and looks mobile.
    I think he has a chance to fit in with Quin's system.

    Bigger, less nimble version of Julius Randle.

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  • Jazaggie
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    Originally posted by KYJazzFan View Post
    I've been so out of the loop I have no idea what to make of these picks. The national media and Jazz twitter do not seem to be fans of them, however.
    Here is my 30 second recap of the Jazz draft.

    I think some of criticism of the Jazz draft is that is the Jazz traded their 23rd pick for picks 27 and 38. The Knicks then turned around and traded that 23rd pick for picks 25 and 33. That got some reaction from Jazz fans. We then traded our 38th pick and Bradley to the Pistons for future considerations (whatever that turns into???) and cash. We then traded back into the 2nd round, 39th pick for a 2022 2nd round pick. So, it was like we traded our 23rd pick, 38th pick, a 2022 second round pick and Bradley for the 27th pick, 39th pick future considerations and cash. On top of that, we drafted a center who won't be able to spread the floor with our 28th pick while many felt we needed an athletic wing who can defend the perimeter.

    I have to admit, I was quite underwhelmed initially, but am warming up to Udoka. He is just 21 and didn't start playing basketball until he was 12. With a good player development program, like the Jazz have, his potential could be scary good. I don't know much about Hughes.

    It felt like Bradley wasn't a good pick when we drafted him and it turns out, it wasn't a good pick. Sending him to Detroit frees up some cash for us to potentially resign Clarkson (at least that what it sounds like a priority is for the Jazz).

    We do still need an athletic wing who can defend the perimeter. I am holding off judging our draft until I see what we do in free agency.

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  • GenkiAG
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    I was expecting one of the athletic wings with our first pick but having 48 minutes of elite rim protection and dunking is pretty nice to have. Can't wait to see a man that large jump as high as they say he can. We'll have to see how Hughes stacks up against Noni and the others. Clearly, we will be going for FA 4. Just have no idea who it might be. Guess we'll find out in like 24 hours. Things are moving quickly. The season starts in just over 30 days.

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  • KYJazzFan
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    I've been so out of the loop I have no idea what to make of these picks. The national media and Jazz twitter do not seem to be fans of them, however.

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  • Oddbergur
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    Sounds like someone who should be ready to play from day 1

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  • echo77
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    Dok seems to be a solid choice at that pick

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  • leetrakul
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    Thanks F1do! I have not been following the draft at all this year.

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  • f1do
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    The Jazz end up with these picks in the 2020 NBA Draft:
    Udoka Azubuike 6' 11" 260 lb C Kansas, Senior
    https://www.nbadraft.net/players/udoka-azubuike/ NBA Comparison: Bismack Biyombo

    Strengths: Udoka Azubuike’s most obvious strength is pretty hard to miss. He is very big. At 7 feet .25 inches in shoes, and possessing an elite 7’7” wingspan he’s extremely long. Even better, after years in the weight room he’s molded himself into a lean, muscular 260 pound athlete. Dok can hold his own with the biggest and strongest of NBA centers. His size and length give him immediate translatable skills like rebounding and the ability to defend the rim. Azubuike isn’t a stiff either. At the 2020 combine he measured a freakish 37 inch max standing vertical leap, which allowed him to hit the 12’6” mark without any sort of run. After averaging 2.6 blocks per game as a senior at Kansas, Udoka’s size and spring will render him at the very least a plus rim defender in the NBA with the potential to be elite. While not the quickest lateral player his 7’7” wingspan also makes him extremely effective guarding the entire paint area, and extremely effective in one on one post matchups, help and rotational situations in the lane. Even in a more spaced out environment, he would be a major deterrent for offensive players to test their luck in the paint. While not a guy you really want running around by the 3 point line, he’s developed into a solid pick and roll defender too with the ability to effectively switch and stay out of foul trouble. Dok truly was a historic figure in NCAA D1 Hoops. Over four seasons at Kansas he shot .7465% from the field, good for first all time. No, Azubuike isn’t going to impress you with a vast array of post moves, but he is an extremely effective finisher, with the length and girth to be a high level pick and roll target and finisher at the rim at the NBA level. Chances are if he gets the ball in the low post, he’s going to score. Dok upped his rebounding every season at Kansas, and his 10.5 rebounds per game as a senior (3.5 offensive) are good indicators that he’ll be able to collect misses at a good clip at the next level. Over four years he really transformed his body. Dok lost fat, gained muscle and athleticism, and improved endurance which really aided in being in the position to be talked about entering the NBA draft. While not your typical face up big man of 2020, Dok is good enough at what he does (and good enough to be able to do it in the NBA) to be looked at as a potential draft pick or two way player. After seeing how unpolished he was 4 years ago, it’s a testament to his work ethic, which is also another strength

    Weaknesses: In 1992 we might be talking about a player like Azubuike being picked up in the lottery, but with the way the game has changed, despite being elite as a rebounder, and rim defender, those characteristics don’t hold nearly as much value if you’re not able to stretch the floor for better spacing. No doubt Dok is more comfortable as an offensive player than he was as a freshman, but he’s never really developed the ability to hit a face up jump shot. This makes his only value on offense strictly around the rim. His projected failure to draw his defender away from the hoop will allow defenses to sag off and contend the rim easier. His lack of improvement as a free throw shooter doesn’t exactly paint a trajectory of developing even a consistent 15 footer over the next few years. Udoka shot just 44% from the free throw stripe as a senior, and that was a career high. He is also not a naturally quick lateral defender. His focus on conditioning has certainly allowed him to improve, but guarding face up bigs one on one in the NBA often 20-25 feet away from the basket could make him an easier target to blow past, or exploit by a stretch 5 with three point range.

    Overall: Udoka Azubuike is an elite shot blocker, defender and finisher with immense size and athletic ability. He’ll be able to protect the rim, finish pick and rolls and dunk anything within 5 feet of the rim at an elite rate. The question is, will that be good enough to stick in the modern game? His low free throw percentages give pause to project much improvement as a shooter, and he could be a hack target late in games with his current woeful free throw ability. Still, Dok could get a shot as a situational backup to plug in lineups when Andre Drummond, Joel Embiid, and other NBA behemoths come to town, and rack up DNPs when matched against fast paced small ball teams. We saw during the 2020 playoffs that sometimes it’s very valuable to have big bodied rim protectors like JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard on your roster in certain situations. Whether it’s in the 2nd round or by way of a rookie free agent contract, I think Udoka will get a shot. It will just be his ability to adapt the NBA game that will eventually mean the difference between sticking or going overseas to earn his check.

    Notes: measured: 6’10.00” barefoot, 6’11.50” in shoes, 9’5.00” standing reach, 259.5 lbs, and 7’7.25” wingspan at the 2020 NBA Combine … All Big 12 Third Team 2017-2018. All Big 12 First Team (2019-20). Big 12 Player of the Year (2019-20). Second Team AP All-American (2019-20)

    David Ray 11/9/20

    Strengths: 6’11 athletic big man … Great size, strength, and aggression. Has great length with a 7’5 wingspan. Takes up a lot of space and holds position against the biggest opponents … Plays physical and likes to bang. It’s common for defenders to get out of the way after he catches it where he wants it and attacks. Needs to be tracked every offensive possession and wears down the man guarding him … Explosive athlete. Gets off the ground very well for a player with his size. Reliable finisher … Good shot blocker. Can serve as an anchor on defense … Very good rebounder on both ends. Holds position well and secures nearly everything he can get his hand on … Shows some touch and a developing jump hook from in close for a solid foundation for a back to the basket game … Embraces his role as a big man. Doesn’t try to step out to the perimeter and play outside his game …

    Weaknesses: Still very raw in terms of skillset. Doesn’t provide much outside the paint. Can improve his post-game and footwork. Can improve his face up game and free throw shooting … Foul prone. Uses hands too much on defense and can develop a better understanding of defensive positioning … Even though his size and length stand out even at the highest levels, he will need to add more to his offensive game. He gets by with simply catching and finishing at the high school level … Needs to improve conditioning, gets winded throughout the game. Not very effective when he’s the last one up the court …

    Outlook: Azubuike stands out with his size, strength, and athleticism. Still raw in his development, he has the opportunity to make an impact at Kansas, where he will spend a minimum of two years due to his listed age. Azubuike played in the McDonald’s All American Game, Jordan Brand Classic, and Nike Hoop Summit.

    Notes: Measured 6’9, 268 lbs with a 7’5 wingspan at the 2014 Nike Elite 100 … Measured 6’11.5’’ in shoes, with a 7’5’’ wingspan and 267 lbs at the 2015 Nike Basketball Academy


    Elijah Hughes 6' 6" 230 lb SG Syracuse, Junior
    https://www.nbadraft.net/players/elijah-hughes/ NBA Comparison: Malik Beasley

    Strengths: Hughes is a smooth athlete with nice explosiveness, capable of finishing above the rim when he gets an opening … Polished ball skills … Effective in the open floor as well as playing in the half court … Has solid scoring ability and versatility … Shows quality ability to break down opponents off the dribble, and has some decent wiggle in ISO situations … Understands how to set up opponents with change of speed, hesitation moves … Drives the ball well and has touch when he can’t complete plays with dunks … Utilizes finger rolls and floaters well … Handles the ball well for a wing and routinely brought the ball up for Syracuse … Shows a good shooting form and can fill up the bucket with points in a hurry, averaging 19 ppg as a junior … Shot 81% from the FT line … Can pull up off the dribble as well as knock down shots on catch and shoot situations … Not a black hole, despite being the team’s go to scorer. Does a solid job of looking to get teammates involved … A good passer and protects the ball well averaging 3.4 assists to 2.3 turnovers … Has shown steady improvement as a shooter and scorer, raising his FT% steadily throughout his college career … Confident player, doesn’t get rattled easily and shows solid competitiveness … Solidly built frame at 215 lbs … Shows solid anticipation to jump passing lanes on defensive end … Solid rebounder, showing a willingness to give up his body and battle bigger player for boards (4.9 per game) … Contributed nearly a block per game (0.8 per) in both sophomore and junior seasons … Extremely consistent player, putting up double digits in all but two games … Considered a high character guy and good teammate … Solid length with a wingspan that appears in the 6-9 to 6-10 range …

    Weaknesses: Lacks ideal height for the wing position … Athleticism is solid but not elite. Finished a lot of plays with finger rolls and got his shot blocked around the rim a fair amount … Limited upside as he turned 22 on March 10th … A good shooter, but his three point percentage dipped to 34% with a lot of pressure put on him to score from the perimeter … Defense is a concern as he will need to re-learn some of the basics of spacing and man defense, having spent two years at Syracuse following his transfer from East Carolina … Over confidence in his shooting leads to too many shots from too far outside the three point arch. While he has the range, his tendency to launch shots 5 feet beyond the line raises some question marks … Appears that he could tone his body some … Can be over ambitions with his passing at times, trying to thread a needle or look for the spectacular play …

    Overall: Despite hitting just 34% from three, he actually connected on more three pointers in his sophomore year 87-236 (36.9%) … Perhaps defenses being able to focus more of their attention on Hughes affected his shooting efficiency to some degree as a junior …

    Notes: Measured: 6’4.75” barefoot, 6’6.50” in shoes, 8’5.50” standing reach, 229.0 lbs, and 6’7.50” wingspan at the 2020 NBA Combine … Played his senior season of high school at famed South Kent Prep in Connecticut … Started his college career at East Carolina, where he played his freshman year before transferring to Syracuse and red-shirting one season … Majored in human development and family science …

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  • f1do
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    With the trade of the 28th pick to the Thunder, the Lakers have traded out of the draft this year. So LeBron won't have to deal with a rookie.

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  • paterooski
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    Thanks for all the information you're posting, f1do.

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  • f1do
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    Eric Walden: French point guard Theo Maledon says he interviewed with the Jazz’s front office via Zoom, and then spoke afterward with the team’s sports psychologist. Said he feels like playing alongside a fellow Frenchman like Rudy Gobert would help his transition to the NBA.

    – via Twitter tribjazz

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