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  • #16
    Re: Lebron James

    Originally posted by WeberJazz View Post
    Tonight became the first frontcourt player in NBA history with 7k assists. First player ever with 27k points, 7k rebounds and 7k assists.
    A couple more minutes per game, and he could AVERAGE a triple-double.

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    • #17
      Re: Lebron James

      If Lebron really wants to form another super team, he should join Gobert and Hayward in Utah.

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      • #18
        Re: Lebron James

        Yep, he missed a year already

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        • #19
          Re: Lebron James

          Originally posted by TheAntiFan View Post
          If Lebron really wants to form another super team, he should join Gobert and Hayward in Utah.

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          • #20
            Re: Lebron James

            Lebron is about to turn 33 and is in his 15th NBA season. He's younger than a lot of dudes in their 15th seasons given that he came into the league at 18, but he has a ridiculous amount of miles on his legs having averaged 38.9 mpg over his career, played the equivalent of an additional three full seasons in postseason games, and spent several summer playing for team USA. Despite that he has his highest FG% ever, his 2nd highest 3pt% ever, his highest FT% ever, is tied for his highest APG ever, has highest his BPG ever, has his highest PPG since the '08-'09 season, and his highest PER since the '12-'13 season. Obviously it's still early in the season, but the dude is a marvel.

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            • #21
              Re: Lebron James

              I like Giannis way more.

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              • #22
                Re: Lebron James

                Originally posted by jozef View Post
                I like Giannis way more.
                Certainly at this stage of their careers. LBJ has another 5 left; Giannis is just coming into his own. He will be this generation's Lebron. Very few players can play all five positions. I have no doubt Lebron could have, just as Magic did (he started a playoff game at center, IINM). MJ was the greatest, but couldn't have played the 5.

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                • #23
                  Re: Lebron James

                  Magic played one game at C and LeBron definitely cannot play 5 positions.
                  LeBron is great stud, but I hold few issues against him: he needs too much space, he cannot play off ball, he gets so much help in All-Star/veteran teammates. All his teammates need to adjust to make a space for him and they stay off ball more than ever in their careers. Their payroll were league top.
                  Giannis seems to be able to do everything and in much more smooth and compatible fashion.
                  ...
                  In Miami Heat both Wade and Bosh had to step aside and roster were created of spreadshooters:
                  10/11 M.Bibby, M.Miller, E.House, J.Jones (all kind of .400 3pt shooters) were not enough, lost to DAL
                  11/12 S.Battier replaced Bibby, beat OKC
                  12/13 add R.Allen and R.Lewis, beat SAS (Ray buzzerbeater)
                  13/14 add Beasley, lost to SAS (minus 70 when LeBron and Dwayne on the floor together)
                  Back in Cleveland Irving and Love (both 3pt excellent) replace Wade and Bosh and spreadshooters:
                  14/15 J.R.Smith, M.Miller, J.Jones, lost to GS
                  15/16 add Mo Williams, Ch.Frye, R.Jefferson, beat GS (Bogut injury, Green suspension)
                  16/17 add M.Dunleavy/K.Korver, D.Williams, lost to GS

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                  • #24
                    Re: Lebron James

                    Well, by that same standard, Giannis can't play 5 positions, either.

                    LBJ can't play off ball? He certainly could, but he's so good at getting the ball to others, you WANT him to have the ball in his hands. Lebron came in as a 19yr old and averaged 21 pts/per. He has career averages of 27/7/7. He's a career 50%/34% shooter.

                    I'm not saying Giannis isn't great. But he's barely in LBJ's stratosphere and it took him 4 more years to get there. He's a better rebounder this seasaon, but doesn't get as many assists. And he's only shooting 27% on his 3's, which is actually down a bit from last season. You claim players "stepped aside" for LBJ? They have to do the same this year for Giannis. That happens any time you have a ~30 pt scorer on a team. Even Steph Curry and Klay Thompson are giving up shots to Durant.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Lebron James

                      Now if you want to argue Kobe was overrated, I'd agree with you there. Kobe was inefficient, LBJ and Giannis aren't.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Lebron James

                        Giannis does not need any extra space, he can drive into small gaps, no players are forced to perimeter.
                        Thats difference. No Big Three and perimeter All-Star shooters.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Lebron James

                          LeBron James might remain the best player in the NBA. He might remain the most valuable. He might even remain a player around whom a team can build a perennial Finals contender. But the question right now is, “Can LeBron remain this good for the rest of the season?” Because this LeBron is very close to as good as we’ve ever seen, in ways we’ve never seen before.

                          Just so everyone’s clear at the top: James is not the sun-eater he was in 2012-13, with the third and greatest of his Miami Heat teams. He may not be quite as incontestable as he was at the end of his first tenure in Cleveland, when he won back-to-back MVPs and dragged meager rosters on long and doomed and occasionally brilliant playoff runs.

                          But James is posting career highs in true shooting percentage (66.4), 3-point percentage (41.6), assist percentage (42.9) and block percentage (2.6). His free throw percentage (77.3) is the second-highest of his career. He’s shooting 80.7 percent within 3 feet of the basket and going to the rim about as often as he ever has. He has created more shots for teammates than anyone but Russell Westbrook, according to data from Second Spectrum, and he’s done it while playing 37 minutes per night — a heavy load for a player in his 15th season (who has also logged more than 200 playoff games).
                          https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...etting-better/

                          Unbelievable.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Lebron James

                            There are two types of tanks...

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                            • #29
                              Re: Lebron James

                              WebberJazz, thats exactly what he needs: ball in hands and extra space. He shoots so well inside cause Tristan Thompson (the only inside player) is out and they play Crowder so all of his teammates (and their defender) are at 3pt line: Kevin Love, Jae Crowder, J.R.Smith, Calderon. Add bench players Kyle Korver, Channing Frye, Jeff Green. They moved Wade to the bench cause he does not create extra space for Lebron. They struggle when Derrick Rose played at PG cause he also does not create extra space.
                              LeBron is tank. You can appreciate it. But he also is not creative on his inside scoring at all. He struggled inside when playing Roy Hibbert in playoffs series, or when Igoudala put his body into the path with Bogut protecting the room. Bricks. In 80s Dominique Wilkins(pretty great player) would be his ceiling (just cavemen opinion ).
                              Speaking of that style of play (ball in hands on high picknrolls), James Harden is more impressive.

                              LeBron is the greatest player/manager ever.
                              Nobody in history was able to put such a collection of proven players around.

                              And there is that difference with Giannis. He does not need that extra space. He can be that killer snake. I guess he is able to come off the ball and be efficient. He probably never will play with so many all-star teammates.
                              Last edited by jozef; 12-08-2017, 02:19 AM.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Lebron James

                                30k, 8k, 8k

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